Eric Draitser of StopImperialism.com sits down with international criminal defense lawyer and Great Lakes region specialist John Philpot to discuss the latest developments in Burundi which has been experiencing ongoing political turmoil. Draitser and Philpot discuss the coup against Burundian President Pierre Nkuruziza which took place hours earlier on May 13, 2015, and the politics and geopolitics behind it. They examine the nature of the conflict including the role of regional actors such as the brutal Paul Kagame of Rwanda, civil society organizations and international NGOs, and the neocolonial establishment of the United States and Europe. Draitser and Philpot discuss the regional history and the centrality of ethnic conflict in understanding the politics of Burundi and the Great Lakes region. Additionally, they discuss the global context within which the issue should be understood.